in truth i think the whole nuclear attack siren thing is a waste of time..... ...along with this ridiculous official advice that if something happens.... "just shelter in place".... .. what is that supposed to mean?..... .. stay wherever you are and hope the missile doesn;t land on you?...... the old advice from the 1950s of ... "duck and cover" made a lot more sense..... ...but even that is useless advice if there nothing close by that provides cover..... ....and "cover" is a relative term depending entirely on the power and force of the threat coming against you...... but at least it gives the people that might be targeted something to do and encourages them to at least look for some kind of cover.......
cover and concealment are 2 different things.... and cover from gun fire can be whatever would stop the bullet.. but cover from a nuclear blast has to be thick and solid.... earth works. ..like in a cave or tunnel underground.... .. water.. ..like literally being under it.. and deep... not just sitting on it. .... and concrete... ...best option in a city... can all provide cover from nuclear radiation... ..i was taught years ago in the case of something like that to find a stairwell in the central part of a building that is built of thick concrete.... .or to where i can put as much concrete between and the outside air as possible.... and shelter there until it;s over....... ..
but all that aside..... the fact remains that hitting an island in the middle of the pacific with a ballistic missile fired from thousands of miles away is not as easy as mr kim jong wants the world to think..... it is not even that easy for the u.s. military to do and they have decades of experience and the targeting technology both of which north korea lacks..... .... without sattelites or sophisticated targeting hitting oahu with a missile from north korea would be like an archer shooting an arrow into the air in total darkness and making it land on a postage stamp a half mile away...... ....it;s just not possible with the current north korea that exists today.. .......
and.... i think mr kim jong knows that.... and all of this missile launching and posturing could be just theatrical diversions while north korea plans and executes another less sophisticated type of attack which would be possible..... such as a dirty bomb sneaked across the pacific and delivered through international shipping right into a major port or harbor..... ...that is the threat the u.s. and state officals need to be working to address and find a way to counter........ hopefully they are doing all that and in the mean time just blasting these sirens to mollify the general population that doesn;t know any better.......
(12-04-2017, 09:11 PM)aleshanee Wrote: [ -> ]in truth i think the whole nuclear attack siren thing is a waste of time..... ...along with this ridiculous official advice that if something happens.... "just shelter in place".... .. what is that supposed to mean?..... .. stay wherever you are and hope the missile doesn;t land on you?...... the old advice from the 1950s of ... "duck and cover" made a lot more sense..... ...but even that is useless advice if there nothing close by that provides cover..... ....and "cover" is a relative term depending entirely on the power and force of the threat coming against you...... but at least it gives the people that might be targeted something to do and encourages them to at least look for some kind of cover.......
but all that aside..... the fact remains that hitting an island in the middle of the pacific with a ballistic missile fired from thousands of miles away is not as easy as mr kim jong wants the world to think..... it is not even that easy for the u.s. military to do and they have decades of experience and the targeting technology both of which north korea lacks..... .... without sattelites or sophisticated targeting hitting oahu with a missile from north korea would be like an archer shooting an arrow into the air in total darkness and making it land on a postage stamp a half mile away...... ....it;s just not possible with the current north korea that exists today.. .......
and.... i think mr kim jong knows that.... and all of this missile launching and posturing could be just theatrical diversions while north korea plans and executes another less sophisticated type of attack which would be possible..... such as a dirty bomb sneaked across the pacific and delivered through international shipping right into a major port or harbor..... ...that is the threat the u.s. and state officals need to be working to address and find a way to counter........ hopefully they are doing all that and in the mean time just blasting these sirens to mollify the general population that doesn;t know any better.......
Hadn't thought about it that way.....
NK did launch a satellite into space but who knows what capabilities it has. In fact, I'd already taken the satellite out if it was me. Maybe even sink a NK sub or two. I suspect the next actions the US will take is to try and enforce a Naval blockade of NK. I think its going to happen sooner than later.
INCOMING!!!
Oops, Somebody did a "boo-boo"over the weekend.
Wonder if that somebody will be looking for a new job soon, what with scaring all the folks like that.
they say he has been reassigned to a job where he can do no harm.... .... but in my opinion the whole state nuclear attack warning system needs to be scrapped and turned over to the military or the federal government..... .... for decades we who live here have all known hawaiis politicians were a bunch of incompetent buffoons kept in power through rampant nepotism and ignorance on the part of the public.... ......but now.. after this... the whole world knows........ ..... the only thing more embarassing than the states mistake to people here with common sense.... was seeing the way the majority of the puplic who got the telephone warnings reacted...... and what is needed even more than a state alert system overhaul is a public education program to teach people the right things to do......
i was taught years ago that when the danger of a nuclear detonation exists the best thing to do is go to a place where you are surrounded on all sides by as much concrete or earth works as possible..... concrete and dirt will stop nuclear radiation and are also the best protection against a nuclear blast..... but during the 30 minutes that people were still thinking a nuclear attack was emminent most of them were either standing in the street with tears in their eyes staring into their iphones.... or racing down streets in their cars running red lights going who knows where......... ..all of them would have died in a most heineous fashion had even a small nuclear blast occured that people sheltered inside buildings would have survived..... and what was even more silly is that many of them ran out of buildings that would have provided excellent cover and protection in order to stand in the street and cry with their neighbors all of them staring into iphones wondering what to do...... ....
sorry..... i know i sound a little insensitve but i;m actually angry about it coz some of my room mates who were not home... and that should have known better... did the very same thing.... ....... but as for me i actually slept through the whole thing..... i found out about what had happened when i woke up 3 hours after it was all over..... ....the warnings sirens only sounded for a few minutes before being turned off.... .. had the threat been real they would have left on continually until the blast knocked them out...... and hopefully the continual siren blaring would have woken me up...... but even so, our walls are all thick concrete so staying right here at home where i already was anyway, would have been the best thing to do.. .. and it is what i have done........
i hope they all learn from this incident..... .. but if past history is any indicator the things they will claim to have learned will not the be things they needed to know...... ...but we will see......
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.... if i don;t hear it when and if the real thing happens, then i will have no way of knowing a nuclear missle is coming down on us and i;m about to be blown to smithereens.... .....either way i will be blown to smithereens.... ... but if i can;t hear it i will never know i am about to blown to smithereens..... 
..... wow..... 
... bummer....... 
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