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i wonder how things might have been different had president obama been subjected to a politicized fbi and intelligence community that was stacked against him... ...and had agents of both been freely roaming around the white house.... .. and had he been forced to face a mainstream news media every day, that leaned heavily right wing and did nothing more than serve as a mouthpiece for the republican party?....... ...would he have even been elected if such a situation had existed in 2008?...... 

philosophers both amateur and professional, have been surmising for over 2 centuries what would finally spell the end for a free society like the united states.... very little has not been considered as a prime potential suspect... and many of those things did and still do pose a threat.... ...... . but in my opinion it will be the continued trend toward allowing and even encouraging politicized bureaucrats to hold authority over politicized government agencies that will eventually do us in...... even more quickly than a politicized court system woud do......

democrats...(the citizen voters anyway).....  look at the agencies their favorite politicians have successfully stacked for the last 3 decades with left leaning ideologues and think they see nirvana..... but if they were even half as smart as they think they are they would look and see a future nightmare..... the people they are voting for are nothing more than tyrants and dictators waiting their chance to seize power.... ...

so for now it;s all still in the hands of the people.... .time will tell whether or not they decide to vote for people who have already confessed to having a set of chains and manacles waiting for them...... .if the majority of americans vote for someone like that then i believe they will have proven themselves too stupid to be allowed freedom.... .... and i think that;s exactly what the democrat candidates are hoping for...... .

well said!

At least its not hidden any longer. The double standards and blatant hypocrisy can be seen every day across all levels of government and the media. Even the willing blind have to acknowledge it.

I hope the American voter chooses well the next election. I really do.

what gets me is how the mainstream news media..... and even a few so called "journalists" from a news agency that is supposed to be fair and balanced.. and the democrats... are all in lock step with each other and reading from the same page on this issue..... .. even using the same language and skewed definitions to describe it all...... ....

not long ago i was under the impression that the phrase "thoroughly debunked" meant an issue or theory had been investigated from all sides with all evidence presented and examined..... then determined to be untrue because the evidence against the theory was greater than any evidence supporting it... .... or something like that.....

but according to reporters like shepard smith at fox news, an issue that is swept under the rug by democrats... ... white washed by a corrupt foreign government.. .. not investigated at all by u.s. law enforcement... ..and then basically ignored by the american news media is also considered "thoroughly debunked"...... ..

one thing that president trump seems to have a real talent for is bringing out these people we used to think were basically fair minded, but just had a few opinions that lean towards the left... and then exposing them as deep political hacks firmly seated in the democrats camp........ ....from what i can see the lines between the 2 have never been more clear...... 

2 years ago people on the left and and in the msm claimed the "deep state" didn;t exist and that talk of such was just another conspiracy theory...... notice how they don;t say that anymore?..... .....after peter stzrock and the comey revelations they not only stopped denying it;s existence but began calling everyone involved in it a patriotic hero.... ..well now it seems they have got a few more deep state "patriots" to celebrate among some politicized white house staffers... who are also cia.... and that are once again, left overs from the obama administration.....

nancy pelosi was right when she said this is a sad day for our country...... but ironically it;s not sad for the reasons she thinks it is...