praise_yeshua > 09-27-2018, 06:41 PM
The Rogue Tomato > 09-28-2018, 04:50 AM
praise_yeshua > 09-28-2018, 01:09 PM
(09-28-2018, 04:50 AM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: I don't know if she's lying, but she's wrong. People who were in a position to know what happened denied anything ever happened. The truthfulness of the accusations against Kavanaugh aren't decided by the credibility of the accuser. They're decided by hard evidence, and there is none.
aleshanee > 09-28-2018, 09:39 PM
DeepSix > 10-02-2018, 11:45 PM
(09-27-2018, 06:41 PM)praise_yeshua Wrote: The ONLY way you can prove someone is lying is through cold hard evidence.
Far too many people are too comfortable with lying. So comfortable they can convince themselves that they are telling the truth when they in fact know they are lying.
I remember my children, one in particular, that so convinced me once that she was telling the truth that I was ready to do most anything to make it right for her......
To only find out she had lied about it. They ONLY way I knew was I caught them in a lie that really didn't even have anything to do with the situation. I knew that they were so comfortable with lying that I had to be convinced with cold hard evidence to know the difference.
Hollywood acting has proven humanity are some very convincing liars.
If you can't prove it with evidence, let God handle it. He's got the evidence. No one is getting away with lying. No one.
The Rogue Tomato > 10-03-2018, 12:37 PM
praise_yeshua > 10-03-2018, 07:16 PM
(10-03-2018, 12:37 PM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: According to this body language analysis, she's not only lying, she's a well rehearsed liar.
(10-02-2018, 11:45 PM)DeepSix Wrote:(09-27-2018, 06:41 PM)praise_yeshua Wrote: The ONLY way you can prove someone is lying is through cold hard evidence.
Far too many people are too comfortable with lying. So comfortable they can convince themselves that they are telling the truth when they in fact know they are lying.
I remember my children, one in particular, that so convinced me once that she was telling the truth that I was ready to do most anything to make it right for her......
To only find out she had lied about it. They ONLY way I knew was I caught them in a lie that really didn't even have anything to do with the situation. I knew that they were so comfortable with lying that I had to be convinced with cold hard evidence to know the difference.
Hollywood acting has proven humanity are some very convincing liars.
If you can't prove it with evidence, let God handle it. He's got the evidence. No one is getting away with lying. No one.
I have a family member that I refuse to talk to anymore, because he continually lies to me. Then twists everything I say to him, and lies about every conversation we have.
There was a time however, many years ago, that I would have taken his word over anyone in the world. My experiences with him up to that point, had led me to believe that he would tell the truth, unconditionally. Even it meant punishment was certain, and even if it meant that punishment might be more harsh.
I sincerely believed he was honest to his core. And that he would not lie to me, or anyone else.
As a result I went to bat for him every time there was a dispute. Whether it was at school, out on the street, on whatever job he was working. I went head to head in person, with his school teachers, school administrators, several of his employers, police officers, and even took issue with one of his commanding officers once, when he was in the military.
Then one day after he had been an adult for well over decade, something absolutely bizarre happened. He and I got into a disagreement over a very bad decision I thought he was making, and in order to show me how "stupid" he thought I was he began to bring up incidents from his past where he had gotten into trouble, and in which I had defended him against other people. Then he admitted to me in a way I can only describe as an arrogant boast, that he had been lying every time.
He began telling me the real accounts of what had happened and added in that I was stupid for believing him back then, and I was stupid for arguing with him now. Because, basically,I just didn't know anything, as was evidenced by how easy I was to deceive. And by how quickly I always believed him - someone that everyone else knew to be a habitual liar.
That is when the bald faced lies about that conversation, and every conversation we had afterwards, began.
To say our relationship suffered from that incident would be a vast understatement. It was completely destroyed. I saw a side of him I had never seen before, or perhaps had just been in denial about. But it was a side I had been warned about many times but ignored the warnings.
I don't talk to him anymore because I realized if I don't tell him anything and avoid contact, then there is nothing he can lie about. A hard decision other family members criticized me for, but under the circumstances there really wasn't anything else I could do. It really did get that bad, with no signs of ever getting better.
Dishonest people will be dishonest.
As you said, sometimes all you can do is let God handle it.
(09-28-2018, 09:39 PM)aleshanee Wrote: what i think about this is probably going to make a lot of people mad... ... others won;t understand how i could come up with such a conclusion given my own history.... .... but i watched her testimony very carefully.... every detail of it including every mannerism she exhibited while the whole thing was going on.... and i think ford is lying.... . and i think she knows she is lying.... .. i don;t buy this idea of mistaken identity or of memory lapse... .... if it ever really happened i think she would know exactly who did it..... (and i believe either way it was not brett kavanaugh)...... she would also know exactly when it happened and where it happened..... those are things you never forget..... person place and time are the 3 parameters of orientation... .. when any one of them is missing in a persons head you have to consider whether the rest of what is in there is even valid at all... .. or possibily even dreamed.....
i also don;t buy this idea of her wanting to keep her story private and that her confidence was betrayed through unauthorized leaks of her story to the press..... eveything from the betrayal of her privacy...... (i think she gave that story to the washington post herself)..... ... to the fear of flying that led to a 2 week delay before this latest hearing....... (she flies more times every month than i ever have in my entire life..... ) ..... the faked fraility protrayed by the overdone meekness..... blonde disheveld hair left hanging in her face..... blue dress to match her blue eyes... ..peeking out over the rim of her glasses as if she is trying to hide.... the badly overdone juvenile, almost childlike sounding voice...... ...( i;ll bet if she really got steamed about something she could bellow out a response louder than brett kavanaugh did) ..... ..... . even the protests before hand by democrat senators who feared for her "mental wellbeing" being if she was subjected to grilling by 11 "old white male" republicans ... ..(which led to the hiring of a female professional victim advocate that would take over for the republicans on questioning)....... was all perfectly designed to get us exactly where are.... ... an indefinite delay caused by the shallow sentimentalism of a few of those "old white men" that couldn;t separate their common sense and tender sensibilities from the heart rending image of a poor - battered - abused ... and obviously vulnerable white female.... made victim even by her own lawyers and political party.... .. the set up could not have been better.... .. ford was the democrats equivalent of a jihadists human shield.. .. and the democrats knew republicans would hold their fire allowing them to hide behind her and blaze away..... ... ....
and we all knew what the democrats were going to do and say... .. it was no surprise... ... they had been saying it for weeks.... .. .. but i wanted to puke every time i heard one of the republicans call fords testimony "credible"..and "compelling"... then saw the tears streaming down their faces... .. ... ..... they must cry their eyes out and soak a dozen hankys when their wife drags them to see a chick flick in the theater.. ... ... yesterday was perfectly orchestrated theater performed by a very talented actress... .. and they fell for it hook line and sinker.... .... tears streaming down their faces, while failing to notice a lack of tears coming from her... no doubt distracted from the sight of her various facial contortions... which to me looked like a futile effort summon a few... ... kavanaugh on the other hand spent a great deal of time trying fight back tears during his testimony.. ....which led some democrat senators to mock him then exhibit the audacity to question his fitness due to the anger he expressed at being accused by them of sexual abuse and gang rape in front of his family and young daughters.... .... had it not been for lindsay graham taking his time back from the special inquisitor who seemed to have forgotten which side hired her... the whole day would have belonged to the democrats... ..... graham slammed the dems for playing the dirtiest tricks he had ever seen since his time in politics, and shook the republicans back to reality waking them up from their teary eyed sleep..... ...... ....
but that wasn;t the end of the story.... .. the next day the democrat attacks on kavanaugh continued at a time that had been scheduled for taking a vote..... this time with the democrats serving up bucket loads of guilt trip to the republicans which once again opened up the tear faucets.... ...it was just one more trap.... ... .... ... and a few republican senators fell right into the democrats hands..... ... but that is all they needed.... .. just a few....(since the margin in the senate is so tight)..... actually just one senator.... .. .. a senator perfectly named "flake".... ....... who flipped on the republicans,.. after a hysterical yet obviously pre-planned and coordinated confrontation in an elevator with a pair of female progressive socialist activists, and broadcast live by a cnn camera which just happened to follow them in there..... ... forcing his fellow republicans to give the democrats exactly what they wanted.. ....... and in the process they.... led by a solitary flake.... have become complicit in the democrats efforts to destroy a good mans reputation and do inexcusable harm to his family....... ....
the only bright points in the whole hearing were kavanaughs powerful opening statement and lindsay grahams rebuke of the democrats when he finally got enough of the shameful ordeal.... both of which happened on day one......... (i will never say another negative thing about lindsay graham again).... . .....and he was absolutely right.... .. if the republicans ..(including the voters)... can;t see through all this shameful charade and fight back.... then they deserve to lose .... and they deserve life under the authoritarian socialist democrats who are chomping at the bit waiting to take over again...... ... and who will do the same thing they did to judge kavanaugh to anybody who gets in their way..... in fact i am afraid the full depths of their depravity and penchant for deception is yet to be seen.... ... ..... .....
aleshanee > 10-03-2018, 08:59 PM
(10-03-2018, 12:37 PM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: According to this body language analysis, she's not only lying, she's a well rehearsed liar.