(12-28-2020, 09:20 PM)aleshanee Wrote: i started following dinesh d'souza back when obama persecuted him for his political and
religious beliefs... .... i didn;t know much about him then... but what i discovered was a
devout christian, with a sharp mind... not afraid to express his beliefs even when it meant
persecution was certain..... ....
what he says here about time, science, and the universe is what i have believed for a long
time... ..i have never believed the works of God has to fit within some confine of scientific
thought or discovery..or even time.. .... .God is God after all and can do anything... ..
but i still like to hear it when scientists think they have vindicated something the Bible says
and which we.. as christians.. have believed all along... ...as if we thought our faith
needed scientific vindication to be valid....
science... like so many false religious ideas based on human logic.... is nothing more than
the result of mans short lived and limited brain, fed by weak and dying flesh... trying
to unravel the mysterious workings of an eternal and all powerful God..
properly applied and without bias.. science will always prove the Bible true and point to
the existence of God.... but the problem with science is that it denies God... and from
the very start of every study using the so called "scientific method"... a "scientist" works
on some "educated guess" hypothesis, tying to prove something the "scientist" already
believes... and in most cases, if the scientist can;t prove his hypothesis - he throws the
study out... .
I personally love this topic.
I take a different view than Dinesh. I would say that Dinesh has a typical theological position born out of Greek Philosophy. Many people fear the word "philosophy" when spoken in a "Christian" context. There is no need to fear such. It would very wrong not to say that "Christianity" in of itself is largely a philosophy. In fact, I would argue that Christianity is the proper "philosophy" associated with science and anything seeking to explain human existence.
First, I agree with almost everything you say. Yet, I do disagree with Dinesh. There are primarily two areas wherein I disagree.
1. The Creation act detailed in Genesis chapter 1 is all about the beginnings of Earth. Not the Universe.
2. Time is Eternal. Meaning. It is never ending. It has always existed because it is FROM God. It is part of His Divine Character. Order to Chaos. Time, in and of itself, is order. Most specifically sequence. 1,2,3,4,5 etc..... The very act of Creation shows that God takes care to work in a particular "order" to accomplish His will.
If you take these two statements as being true, I believe you will "weed out" many mistakes made in Theology that produce some false doctrines.
The "break away" in the video is also problematic. It assumes things that are not based upon fact. For example, "black holes". It assumes we understand the primary functions of a "black hole". Which we don't.
The Creation of Earth and our immediate solar system could have come about when God brought order to the chaos that existed because of God's previous judgement. There is nothing that I have found that requires that we must believe that God created something from nothing. That fact may very well be true in some context of Time. However, that does not mean that Genesis 1 deals with that very point in Time.
Just something to consider.