They're having to admit that Antifa members disguised themselves as Trump supporters. Question is...... what did THEY DO to incite the riot?
I'm betting, given their history, there were more and they are the ones that lead the charge. Not that Trump supporters didn't participate, they did. However, it bet the damage was done by the Antifa. Hopefully, we will find out.
RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 01-08-2021, 07:36 PM
if you look carefully at the videos of the people who first started breaking windows and forcing doors open to make entry into the building.... .. none of them looked or acted in the ways we have come to associate with trump supporters... even when those supporters got caught up in previous confrontations...... .... and from statement made by people on the ground right at the front of the crowd.... who then followed those initial window breakers into the capitol.... none of them... who all knew each other... knew who these guys were that rushed to the front of the crowd to begin breaking in.....
at first you can actually see trump supporters trying to pull some of these initial window breakers back and even drag them off the building.... but then once the break in was made and the first intruders stormed into the capitol the crowd at the front... trump supporters and all..even those who had previously tried to prevent people from breaking in... flooded into the building....
..........why?....... ..i think it;s because at that point mob mentality had taken over.. .... few people if anyone was really thinking or considering their actions.. ... anger and heat of the moment excitement over ruled their common sense.... ..... and though i hate to put it this way..... it became a case of monkey see monkey do....
i completely agree with your post.... it is antifa history to move to the front of any demonstration and instigate violence.... even blm supporters have said this.... or at least claimed it... when their own protests became violent.... and if you look back into history at the beginnings of the falsely named antifa movement that has been one of their tactics all along..... it is how they got riots started in europe and how they got the riot started in seattle at the G8 conference many years ago..... ...they admit to this openly if you ever get a chance to talk to one of them... they are proud of it....
but here;s the problem.... .no matter how much evidence comes out about antifa involvement... and even if some antifa members are arrested and confess... . neither the democrats or their mouth pieces at cnn and msnbc will report it or even admit to it..... they will redirect the story or claim it;s nothing but far right conspiracy theories.. .. the washington post and new york times will write entire opinion pieces disguised as real news claiming fact checkers have debunked the story... .. and then they will blame any law enforcement trying to press charges as having fallen victim to debunked stories and conspiracy theories... ....fake news and yellow journalism will rule the day to the point that even the side of federal law enforcement that wasn;t politicized by obama will give up and give in.... ...antifa will get a pass... ...and democrats will go on claiming antifa is either a myth or a merely patriotic idea that fights against fascism....
and then something even more insidious will happen..... the people who reported what they saw or signed affidavits to that effect.. will be sued or even prosecuted... ....we are seeing that now with lawsuits being filed against anybody and everybody who had a concern about voting machines by the company who manufactured them..... they are trying to silence witnesses and the attorneys who have taken their cases in a way formerly associated with big name crime bosses.... ..
on january 20 the democrats will have full control of the federal government... . ..all the nasty things they falsely claimed trump was going to do when he first took office will be all the things they will begin to do themselves... and more...... ... ....... biden talks unity.... but he has no intention or even the capability of inspiring it or bringing it about... . and his political associates will prevent it... ...they want anyone who supported donald trump to suffer.... it;s all they can talk about.....
..... addendum to first post
..... i wasn;t able to read the news story you linked to until just a moment ago... ..and it was after i wrote my post... .. .......when i first tried to click on it, it wouldn;t come up.... i don;t know why but all i got was blank a page with a spinning color wheel.... (the spinning pizza of death frozen up macbooks are known for)..... so i gave up and wrote my reply.... .....now after reading it i can see that page is almost a full compilation of stories i have read and heard elsewhere.... the ones i told about in my reply... .... .....oh well.... sorry for being redundant.....
but what i was going to say is there is a guy who has been running in the honolulu marathon for almost 3 decades now who dresses exactly like that shirtless guy with the horns on his head that broke into the capitol.... the one they say was q-anon... ....i don;t think it;s the same guy that runs the marathon here.... ..... the guy here is getting pretty old now.... ... but it looks like they had the same inspiration for their mass media event attire....
trouble is... the guy we know as "cow-man" here runs the whole marathon barefoot and with nothing but a loin cloth on his lower half.... ..many a tourist or observer saw more than they wanted to when that guy ran past them with that loin cloth flapping in the breeze....... ........so i seriously doubt that is same guy at the capitol... ... it looks like he was dressed a little more discreetly than his kindred spirit in honolulu... . but it made me think of that when i saw the picture.... ...
it will be interesting to see what the other mainstream news outlets with this story..... ... the last time the new york post reported on a breaking story.... (the hunter biden laptop)..... cnn, the new york times, and msnbc immediatedly called it a fake story and conspiracy theory... .. fox news anchors even cast doubts about it..... . then all the rest of msm and social media blocked and censored the story until after the election....... ...... i have no doubt they will do the same thing with this.... even go so far as calling the new york post story fake and say something like... "they have done it again".... ignoring the fact that everything in the new york post story on hunter biden turned out to be true....
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RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 01-08-2021, 11:21 PM
this is from a trump supporter who was involved in the capitol incident.... ...watching this... plus also the entire interview... i get the impression that he regrets his involvement in it... . or at least i hope he does.... .what he says about the possible involvement of antifa sounds exactly what participants in other protests and marches that took a bad turn have said... concerning people who didn;t appear to be a believer in the movement and who led the way into breaking the law and inciting violence
of course the fbi says they see no evidence of antifa involvement.... and of course the fbi would naturally say that.... ..if they admit antifa was there then people will ask them why they didn;t know that sooner.... in other words why were they once again caught unaware that something major was about to happen.... and if they knew why didn;t they act on that information?.....
many of the capitol police said they didn;t take extreme precautions earlier because trump supporters have always had the reputation for being peacefully and orderly.... they didn;t imagine such a thing could happen... ....and personally i believe that is why trump himself didn;t go to great lengths telling his supporters to be peaceful and not to enter the capitol building from the start.... ..he didn;t imagine such a thing could happen either....
well.... now they know.... ...the more i learn about this thing the more sickened i become by it.... and i know my family all feels the same way.... ...i still don;t believe trump is responsible for inciting a riot or that he committed a crime.... ..but this thing should have never happened.... .like i said... you can;t win over those who are wrong by acting just like them... ....
RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 01-10-2021, 01:33 AM
some news outlets are saying the accounts of trump supporters pulling antifa members away from the building and trying to stop them from breaking in are all false and that it;s fake news generated by right wing social media... .....
but here it is on video...
it;s too bad there weren;t more trump supporters willing to stop the break in and keep antifa and their fellow protesters outside the building....
RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 01-10-2021, 04:23 AM
RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 02-16-2021, 08:59 PM
even after their failed impeachment farce... the left is continuing to push the false ideas that what happened was a violent insurrection on the part of trump supporters.... and that president trump himself incited it......
people who were there know otherwise.... and so far every one of them who speaks out and tells the truth is being deleted and cancelled.. ..so there is no telling how long this video below will be allowed to remain on you tube... .but here it is for now... . with insight that nobody on the left wants to hear or admit.....
RE: Antifa at the Capitol Protests
aleshanee > 02-22-2021, 04:24 AM
this video shows what real trump supporters... the peaceful protesters..... were doing in the early moments when the break in of the capitol first started - they were trying to get police to do their job and put a stop to it... ..unfortunately police had obviously been told to stand back and let the rioters break in....
warning... this video contains extremely foul language....