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we are not at war....
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we are not at war....
aleshanee > 07-06-2022, 01:51 PM
at least not yet..... so why are all the democrats saying we are? ........
ukraine and russia are at war.... that much is obvious.... and we are definitely sending ukraine weapons and monitary aide per the order of biden and his compromised ukrainian expat advisors....
but has bidens corruption and entanglements with ukraine automatically put us into their war with russia just because he and the democrats say so?...... is a war by proxy with russia on the behalf of ukraine how biden and the democrats hope to cover all the biden family corruption in that country?.... .... -
RE: we are not at war....
The Rogue Tomato > 07-12-2022, 04:36 AM
We're fighting a proxy war through Ukraine, and it's only for the benefit of the military industrial complex and Biden's money laundering. -
RE: we are not at war....
aleshanee > 07-12-2022, 01:59 PM
(07-12-2022, 04:36 AM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: We're fighting a proxy war through Ukraine, and it's only for the benefit of the military industrial complex and Biden's money laundering.
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and that;s probably the true reason liz cheney is so anti donald trump.... .her family is deeply embedded in the military industrial complex and makes it;s money off weapons and other services they can deliver to countries at war..... ..if the world is at peace the cheneys have to go back to working regular jobs.... or hoping somebody will pick them as a running mate.... -
RE: we are not at war....
praise_yeshua > 07-12-2022, 08:10 PM
(07-12-2022, 04:36 AM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: We're fighting a proxy war through Ukraine, and it's only for the benefit of the military industrial complex and Biden's money laundering.
Good to see you around.
I agree but it would be hard for me not to have supported Ukraine. I think Biden has done a terrible job. -
RE: we are not at war....
aleshanee > 07-14-2022, 03:02 PM
(07-12-2022, 08:10 PM)praise_yeshua Wrote:
(07-12-2022, 04:36 AM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: We're fighting a proxy war through Ukraine, and it's only for the benefit of the military industrial complex and Biden's money laundering.
Good to see you around.
I agree but it would be hard for me not to have supported Ukraine. I think Biden has done a terrible job.
i second that motion on it being good to see rogue tomato back.....
but as for ukraine... i agree putin was wrong to invade.... but i believe it would not have happened and there would have been no war in ukraine if trump had remained president.... but beyond that.... there would not even be an issue at all between russia and ukraine if any of the 3 presidents serving after george bush the first and before donald trump had bothered to first read... and then honor... the agreements made in budapest during the negotiations between the west and russia that re-unified germany - and set the stage for ending the cold war, after the soviet union disolved.....
but it became very obvious after clinton took control in 1993 that nothing in the way of agreements made then was going to be kept.... . clinton set out to rub the fall of the soviet union in the faces of russians who for the first time in decades were showing a genuine interest in fostering a friendship with america and in becoming a true free state themselves...... then the next 2 presidents bush the second and obama did nothing but continue the damage clinton had started.......
there was a small spark of interest shown in russia to try and rekindle what had started in budapest when trump was elected.... but we all saw what became of that interest once the democrats put their machines of subterfuge to work... their involvement in ukraine... which had become the most corrupt country in the world post cold war.... became a network of entanglements that could have, and should have, put dozens of high ranking democrats and bureaucrats in prison...... not to mention a few businessmen... . but today they are running the show and calling the shots....
and so the world has been set on the path to world war 3.... . doesn;t mean it;s inevitable or that it has to happen.... but someone smarter and with more integrity than those we have in charge of our government today will have to be elected and given the power to stop it..... the first thing they will have to do is ignore the propaganda from both sides and bring them both to the table to negotiate....
my family knows a lot more about this than i do.... ....but i have gone back and read everything i could find on it...... ...plus i also remember some of the first hand accounts i heard sailors tell us about.... things they had witnessed in other countries and also at sea... ..the only good thing that can be said about what biden has done so far is that he hasn;t put american lives at risk in ukraine... yet.... ... but the way he talks makes it sound as if he is planning to....