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In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
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RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
The Rogue Tomato > 05-01-2016, 04:21 PM
(05-01-2016, 04:14 PM)FSSL Wrote: Rogue disagrees. He "knows the software."
Yes, I know mySQL, the database that stores the forum content, and I know how easy it is to browse its contents if you're the site admin. The site management software makes it even easier, without you having to know how to examine mySQL databases yourself.
In fact, I have an old copy of your forum's database, myself, as you'll see if you just read the rest of the thread, so I could prove it if I wanted to invade anyone's privacy. But, unlike you, I won't do that.
I have also set in motion the process to nail down who's overloading the old, old, FFF.com. I'd tell you and/or Ransom that if you're doing it, you'd better stop, but it's too late to erase the evidence now. All that's needed to identify the attacker(s) will be in the logs long after the attacker(s) stop. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
FSSL > 05-01-2016, 04:29 PM
"And, by the way, FSSL -- if you or Ransom are responsible for the denial-of-service attack on the old, old, FFF.com, I guarantee you will be found out."
LOL!!! As if you really know that it is a DOS. Could it be a simple hangup with their MySql process that a reboot would fix? Most likely.
Your only interest is to see if you can dig up something to blame on me and Ransom. Your obsession with me and Ransom are comically desperate.
"The site management software makes it even easier, without you having to know how to examine mySQL databases yourself."
Your admin knows better. He is not honest enough to tell you because you will get mad at him for correcting you in public. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
The Rogue Tomato > 05-01-2016, 04:32 PM
(05-01-2016, 04:29 PM)FSSL Wrote: "And, by the way, FSSL -- if you or Ransom are responsible for the denial-of-service attack on the old, old, FFF.com, I guarantee you will be found out."
LOL!!! As if you really know that it is a DOS. Could it be a simple hangup with their MySql process that a reboot would fix? Most likely.
Your only interest is to see if you can dig up something to blame on me and Ransom. Your obsession with me and Ransom are comically desperate.
Well, we'll find out, won't we?
Your obsession with this forum is what's comically desperate. If you had any integrity and knew you were handling your own forum well, you wouldn't be so afraid of competition.
You doubt I know the software? Like I said, I have an old copy of the complete forum SQL database. Here's the schema for the private messages table.
![[Image: tumblr_o6ibnjh2Y21s59098o1_400.png]](https://40.media.tumblr.com/3358aaba8c6cca5ef90ed739ff7ba150/tumblr_o6ibnjh2Y21s59098o1_400.png)
Here's how to read the private messages:
select fromName, subject, body from smf_personal_messages where fromName = (person you want to spy on).
Or, an even easier way to do it is to use the site's mySQLAdmin software, which is a graphical interface for browsing the contents of the forum database. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
FSSL > 05-01-2016, 04:40 PM
Will you have the honesty to report your findings and make a heartfelt apology to us when you find out the truth? -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
The Rogue Tomato > 05-01-2016, 04:46 PM
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RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
FSSL > 05-01-2016, 04:51 PM
(05-01-2016, 04:46 PM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: Will you have the honesty to admit you can read private messages anytime you want to?
Now that you both told me that the PMs are in clear text in the database, sure.
I never have and will never do it.
EVERYTHING I have derived from your group has been stated publicly.
However, you did say that you could read PMs using the software console. That is not possible.
Unlike this forum, I actually have a Privacy Statement. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
The Rogue Tomato > 05-01-2016, 04:53 PM
(05-01-2016, 04:51 PM)FSSL Wrote:
(05-01-2016, 04:46 PM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: Will you have the honesty to admit you can read private messages anytime you want to?
Now that you both told me that the PMs are in clear text in the database, sure.
I never have and will never do it.
EVERYTHING I have derived from your group has been stated publicly.
However, you did say that you could read PMs using the software console. That is not possible.
Unlike this forum, I actually have a Privacy Statement.
Quote me saying you can to it from the forum software console. I never said that. I said site administration, which is where you can run mySQLAdmin.
You're a known liar. Your word that you'd never do it means nothing. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
FSSL > 05-01-2016, 05:08 PM
You said, "By the way, I know for a fact that this is a lie. I know the software. I know site admins can read the PMs."
You said "software." You also said that "admins can read the PMs." The software does not allow access to the PMs. Admins cannot read the PMs though the software.
Thanks to you and admin, I NOW know that can be done through MySql. ONLY the WEBSITE DEVELOPER can read PMs if he checks out the database. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
admin > 05-01-2016, 05:12 PM
(05-01-2016, 04:51 PM)FSSL Wrote:
(05-01-2016, 04:46 PM)The Rogue Tomato Wrote: Will you have the honesty to admit you can read private messages anytime you want to?
Now that you both told me that the PMs are in clear text in the database, sure.
I never have and will never do it.
EVERYTHING I have derived from your group has been stated publicly.
However, you did say that you could read PMs using the software console. That is not possible.
Unlike this forum, I actually have a Privacy Statement.
I told you I didn't copy what your produced on the ff.org.
I have openly stated many times on ff.org and I'll say it now, I will not share any information from the forums with anyone without a subpoena.
If it makes you feel better, I'll copy your "Privacy Statement" and use it here.
Are you seriously trying to get someone to believe.....you didn't already know this information is stored unencrpted or unobscured in the database? That's hard for me to believe. -
RE: In the spirit of Christian charity and grace...
admin > 05-01-2016, 05:18 PM
(05-01-2016, 05:08 PM)FSSL Wrote: You said, "By the way, I know for a fact that this is a lie. I know the software. I know site admins can read the PMs."
You said "software." You also said that "admins can read the PMs." The software does not allow access to the PMs. Admins cannot read the PMs though the software.
Thanks to you and admin, I NOW know that can be done through MySql. ONLY the WEBSITE DEVELOPER can read PMs if he checks out the database.
Good grief, you are the website developer. You run CPanel and can readily run MySQL admin or query the proper tables from the shell.
Stop pretending you don't know how to do this.