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the press and photo corps certainly do love this flying potato many veteran pilots refer
to as "fat amy"... the visual appeal of it is in the eye of the beholder and it;s combat
effectiveness is yet to be proven....  ..and so far in mock aerial combat F-15s and 
F-16s 50 years older than it is have cleaned it;s clock... ..and don;t even mention
putting it up against the F-22 coz the pentagon won;t even consider it....  38

and yet this is what some claim obama cancelled the F-22 in favor of.....  35


the lockheed vc-121a constellation is ... in my opinion.. one of the most beautiful
aircraft to ever take to the sky... ..... but i still wouldn;t ever get in one or fly
in it..... .. i;m scared to death of flying....  i know - weird for someone who
started and maintains a thread on combat aircraft....  35
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i know i started this thread about american air power....  but check out this
 italian made C-27j spartan at the riat 2024 air show..... .... this is amazing... 
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so.... . could an outdated and no longer in service U.S. F-14 tomcat defeat a 5th generation
chinese J-20 ...(their newest stealth fighter aircraft?)..... ..years ago people like warmonger
and defense industry mogul dick cheney would have said no.... . but digitial combat similators
operated by competent u.s. pilots indicate otherwise.... 

this is a great video but a warning is in order.... the F-14 had a very irritating and highly
audible enemy contact alert system... ..and it can be heard all through this video.... it
takes come getting use to.... 
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F4 Phantom vrs Mig 17 over Vietnam..... if you remember.... this is the fight somebody
here a few years ago said the F4 Phantom could never win.... .(remember that vincent?)
...well..... here it is in a digital air combat similator... flown by a qualified and highly skilled
pilot.... .. it was a reality then and can still be demonstrated now..... pretty awesome...  36
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